My guest today is Meg
Amor. Meg has spent
a lifetime as a therapist being fascinated, and collecting unusual love
stories. She loves to write romantic erotica, with committed poly
relationships, and other unusual romance mixes.
Meg hand-wrote and 'published' her first book when she was 11 years old, about her parents' divorce. Constantly told as a child, she had a vivid and active imagination --- the dawn of the computer era meant she could now take dictation at speed from the interesting characters galloping around her head.
Meg Amor grew up in New Zealand and lives in California with her American fur child, Leo Ray Jr. the cat and Mr. Beaumont the other holy terror cleverly disguised as a cat.
John: Meg, I’m so glad
you agreed to be my guest. From what I
know about you, you have an expansive, make-it-up-as-you-go-along approach to
life. I’m guessing the same attitude
applies to your writing—as it does mine.
Some writers plot and plot their books to death in advance, and yet if
you ask them, they say there will still be surprises. It’s as if they think their novel can still breathe.
MEG: Snorting, with appreciative laughter over
your plotter, plotter comment. I
love the way, you say... I guess the novel can still breathe. LOL.... LOL.
I always wonder how they
haven't strangled the poor thing to death too before they even start. The
boredom factor would do my head in.
I could write down a
rough idea but my characters...if I'm lucky...run off and do their own
thing. When they don't, I worry.
I'm the same as you. I
might look like I'm harem scarem, but in truth, I have a sharp brain and have
quite a lot stored in it in terms of sequencing, details, etc. I could tell you anything about any of my
characters and not be wrong anywhere. Someone mentioned putting a time stamp on
things, when they wrote them. I'm not
sure what they meant and haven't got an answer yet.
It rings this vague bell
from when I attempted a script. But
I just write. And like you,
I edit, edit, edit. I get it down. Not stopping for spelling, grammar, my
dreadful syntax etc. I send each new piece and updated MS into my
phone every day. I lie in bed and
read it through. I see what needs
changing and sharpening. I go and do it
when I start again. Then I'm off writing
At the end of all that,
I still have to edit the guts out of it, but the story is there at that point. I just have to chainsaw a thousand
(thousands... actually LOL) words out. I
tighten and tighten.
I read it out loud to
myself. I re-edit from that. I'm meticulous in a different way. But I
write organically. I write the end first
sometimes. I start in the middle of a
scene. I backfill. I cut and paste scenes around. I roll with my characters. I know them so well, that I know THEM. They become part of me. Or are part of me.
Meg Flying the Tiger Moth
John: Meg, parts of your
fiction are boldly sexual and erotic, yet for years, sex was absent from your
life. Could you talk about that?
MEG: When I first
started writing Henry and Isolde, I
was only just getting back into being sexual myself. No sex in my marriage for years. Ugh.
And when I hit 50, John,
some part of me just said... NO. I am not going the rest of my life
without sex. I cannot do it.
So, I started to
write it, as a lot of us erotica writers do. We put our fantasies on the page.
I got comfortable with
male/female sex again. Then Charlie
turned up. (He was supposed to be a
secondary character and sidekick to Henry, but took over and now in books two
and three of the Troika Love Series, is a main character and part of the
relationship between Henry, Izzy and Charlie. I... as the writer felt disloyal to Henry. (I get terribly involved in my characters.)
Then I felt a bit weird when it first
Izzy would love this hat!
John: Why did you feel weird? Because the
sex was heading in another direction?
MEG: Yes. I didn't know if people would like Henry with
another man. He's so lovely and such a southern gentleman... that I
Then I was caught in the
funny place, where I realized that 'I' like male/male sex, but would my
readers? Would they understand?
I honestly... started
watching male/male porn for research. LOL. I really did. Because I had three of them and
I was trying to get the positioning right and some new ideas. And the male/female porn bored me ridgeless. It's so contrived and they all look like
they're bored and at the coffee morning!!
So I started the
male/male stuff. And Ohhh... yeah...
okay... that's very sexy. Not sure why. It just is. And it turns out, I'm not the only woman who
loves male/male. :-) But
it intrigued me. I got used to anal
sex. I stopped looking at it and thinking
it's slightly weird. Now it looks
normal. LOL. Now, I think it's
lovely. See... times change.
And Charlie is very
masculine but very, very sexual. I had to allow him to be himself. And I had to let him in to Henry and Izzy...
who's really me. :-) And that's probably
why... it was hard. Because they're not
just my characters. Izzy is me. Almost pure me. She can throw, dance, swing and is younger.
But otherwise, I'm Izzy... through and through.
John: You know, Meg, this threesome relationship
not only sounds complicated but pretty darn personal—am I right?
MEG: It was quite
personal in the end, I think. It's
a good question. :-) I've
never figured it out. But yes, it's
personal. Would I ever go out with two men at once. Yes, I have done. But I've never had a threesome. Would I entertain it... yes... with another
man. Not into woman.
So I don't know whether
it's a fantasy. Or whether a part of me would thrive on that. It would have to be very committed,
very loving between everyone. I have a
deep loyalty at times.
Um... does that answer
your question. LOL.
And yes... I only do
vanilla sex. I HATE BDSM. I read Mikey's work because she's
my writing buddy and she's a fabulous writer. Her characters are
She writes her
nightmares and her life into her work. I
write sensual erotic romance. But
we're good buddies.
Maybe some people would
say what I write is kink. I'm not sure. But even the people who cringe at male/male like my characters and their story.
Because ultimately they're about
relationships and deep love. There's a
very deep soul connection between my characters. Always. I love like that ... so I expect it from my
I'm loving this
male/male I’ve just finished writing. Such beautiful characters. Oooh... they steal my heart. :-) Beau is so broken... he just needs the
love. He's so sweet. I adore him. I only write HEA. I put a lot of my psych background into my
work. And this one... so far... has no past life... very odd. LOL. But one might rear its head. :-) Who knows with us pantsers. LOL.
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John: What is it about
poly relationships that draws you? What
is their full potential? You say you might
commit to two male partners. What about
three, four, and so on? What about
multiple partners for others?
MEG: These are really
good questions, John! J What draws me. I don’t know. There’s probably a
lot of layers to that. I’ve sometimes been with brothers or best friends at the same
time. Possibly different people give me different things that I need. I’m quite
complex and fairly deep. I think you and I had a discussion once about that and
how the person I was looking for probably wasn’t going to be a dime a dozen or
lots of people out there that would suit me. I think that’s part of it. When I
look at Henry and Charlie, I love Henry’s gentleness, his deep calm and
kindness. And yet, I also crave Charlie’s raunchiness, his outright sexuality
and straightforwardness. Henry is very sensuous, also something I crave. But
both are highly intelligent men, both intellectually and emotionally — very
So… maybe I just need
two men because trying to fit one of my complexities into another man might be
harder to find. I don’t know. LOL. I do suspect too that having grown up with
two fathers, that there might be a subconscious reason for this desire. And
yes, if two men came along that I fell in love with and also were in love with
each other and me, I’d give it a go. It feels deeply comforting to me. Plus, I
do like male/male sex. It’s very sexy and sensuous for me, not to mention I’d
get double of the yummy bits. J It is very appealing.
For me personally, I
don’t think I could go past two men. Any more than that and I’d feel a bit
lost. These days the new term is called polyfidelity or polyfaithful. I just
read that recently and I thought that was a really nice way to describe it. I
think honestly, once you get beyond three people, trying to form the working
dynamics of a relationship must be a nightmare. Maybe it’s not, I don’t know. I think with three, there’s a lot of needs to get met for everyone. Two men just seem more
balanced to me. I have no idea why. This is for ME personally. I heavily
support all relationships male/female, male/male, pan, female/female. Love is
so important. I think it’s what we’re here to GET.
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John: Why do you hate
Mikey’s BDSM? Isn’t it different strokes
for different folks? You say she’s a
MEG: LOL. Michele
‘Mikey’ Rakes IS a fabulous writer. I love every one of her books. She can
REALLY write. A very powerful writer. So, I’ll read every one of her books, but
some things don’t appeal to me sexually. I love the male/male romance part of
her work. Her characters are always wonderful. You fall in love with them. I
don’t like BDSM because it’s nasty to me. I can’t imagine anything more off-putting than someone whipping, slapping, hitting, cutting me, etc. Not a turn
on for me. I don’t look at leather work and think… ooh, sexy. I think Ugh. People being tied up, blood work (whipping, flogging, etc) clamps and collars; to me, levels of degradation just don’t equal gorgeous, fabulous, sensuous sex.
I think too, with my
background, I’m always aware of where this need for that level of sexual
satisfaction comes from. It’s got squick factor for me. I know what’s probably
behind that in childhood. It’s not very nice to think what some kids are put
Erotic Romance Writer
John: Which talent would you most like to have, and
which weakness would you most like to lose?
MEG: Ooh, these are good questions. J
Talent I’d most like to have is being able to read as a clear medium for people
on the other side. I’d like to have something as clear as John Edward, James
Van Praagh, Lisa Williams etc.
What weakness would I like to lose? I’d like to lose the weakness of backing down on something that’s my opinion or something I
know to be true. And yet, I’ll doubt myself. Oh well… maybe I got that wrong… I
um and ah, then have to look it up on the internet, when I DID know all along. That annoys me. I’d like to be firm in my convictions.
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your happiest childhood memory?
MEG: I liked going to my Grandparents' orchard during the
holidays. My Grandfather would pay me 50 whole cents to paste the labels on the
apple boxes in the huge packing shed he had. I loved it. I got to work with all
these ladies who graded the apples, have smoko with them, that my Gran would
bring down at morning and afternoon tea time. They included me in things. And
in those days, 50 cents was an untold fortune. It would buy me an EP record or
I could put it toward an LP and I’d be quarter of the way there. J
I also loved to do the projects my dad brought home from the engineering
workshop he worked in. He was a tool and die maker when I was a kid and one
project was putting the ring binder metal pieces together. We had boxes of
pieces and we all sat on the living room floor, snap fitting these things
I liked being involved in family things.
the most important lesson life has taught you?
MEG: To go for what’s really in your heart. Not what
you think you ‘might’ like, but what’s truly in your heart. Never settle for
John: If you had to marry a fictional character from
film, books, history, or legend, who would it be?
MEG: God, I have no idea. Actually I do… I’d marry
my Charlie…and Henry. I’m actually hoping they’re one person and that somewhere
soon, I’ll run into them. Maybe on a beach at home in Hawai’i or in the steamy
sultry streets of New Orleans. J
John: Being a writer is (sometimes) a great
job. What is the worst job you’ve had?
MEG: Oh crikey!! LOL. The list is soooooooo long. I
left school at 15 (different education system from Americans. We don’t ‘drop
out.’ We leave and get jobs — there’s a difference.) I think house maiding was
one of the worst ones I’ve ever worked. I worked for the head housekeeper from
hell. She used to randomly change the roster on us. So half the time you’d be
penciled in one day, it’d be rubbed out or put on another day and by magical
osmosis, you were supposed to guesstimate what days you were on. Then she’d go
butchers hooks at you when you arrived. I remember her standing in the elevator
(lift) and shrieking at me. “And where were you yesterday, young lady!” I thought I was over this. I said, “Fuck you.” As the
elevator doors closed on her madder than a wet hen face.
It was my best exit for a job. LOL.
John: Tell us about your latest book, where we can
find it, and where we can find your blog, website, and other sites (which will
be featured at the end of this interview).
MEG: Thank you, John. I don’t know which book to talk
about. I have Dark War already out
with MuseItUp Publishing. A short story about my three characters--Charlie, Henry and
Izzy. It was darkened up slightly for an anthology, but you do get to see the
deep soul connection and love between the three of them. Charlie goes missing,
Henry and Izzy have to find him in time before Charlie’s self-punishment pushes
him over the edge. And when they do find him, will he be able to take in the
love they have for him? That’s on Amazon and Muse.
At Christmas, I have Saint Nicholas coming out, a heartfelt male/female love story about
a widow Daisy who falls for Greek story owner Nicky Constantine. But this isn’t
the first lifetime, they’ve been in love. Glimpses of a WWII lifetime come
through. That will come out through Muse as well, and be available on Amazon
In Spring next year, the first of the Troika Love
Series will be released. J My beautiful Henry, Izzy and Charlie
finally get to tell the world their story. The first book in the trilogy is Henry and Isolde. Henry an older black
musician feels his life is nearly at an end, until he meets the exuberant New
Zealander Izzy. She’s younger than him, richer, his boss and married. But Henry
and Izzy have a deep soul connection between them that defies age and time,
color and race. Set in modern day New Orleans, we watch their deep love story
unfold. Henry comes into his sexuality for the first time in his life and then,
there’s Charlie…it’s complicated.
Henry’s story is really a ‘coming of age’ story, but
perhaps from a different end of life. He’s 67 when he meets Izzy. He can’t
remember the last time he had a really hard erection that lasted more than a
few minutes and feels like his life is pretty much done. He’s a widower, just
waiting for it to end really.
Then he goes to work for the exuberant Izzy and
falls in love with her, but there’s no hope in Henry’s mind for a real
relationship. Izzy’s thirty years younger. She’s married, his boss. What on
earth would she see in him anyway? He’s her employee, an old man and a black
man in the South for Gods’ sake, he thinks. I’m a silly old fool...
But he’s not. Because Izzy also loves him (it’s
right at the start we find this out, so I’m not giving too much away.) Izzy
doesn’t see Henry’s age. She just sees his deep soul, his big heart, sharp
brain, the gentleness in Henry which is so appealing. Izzy opens up a whole new
world for Henry. He comes into his sexuality for the first time in his life
because Izzy doesn’t see him as old. She sees him as a person she not only
loves, but likes enormously too.
He sees wrinkles on his neck. She doesn’t even
notice them. Izzy just thinks Henry is the most beautiful man.
Theirs is a very deep love story and I write in
first person, so you get to hear both their thoughts as they travel through
this lovely relationship together. I like whole men and I write about them. Men
that cry, that show emotion, that are real people. I love them.
This is also with Muse and will be available on
Amazon and Muse.
And I’ve just finished a male/male called Hawaiian Lei which is set in my home state
of Hawai’i. J
And was written for my late husband Aaron Amor. It’s about Beau Toyama, a
Hawaiian/Japanese/Tahitian man who’s a flight instructor and flies a bi-plane
on the Big Island of Hawai’i. He meets Matt Quintal, a New Zealander with
Norfolk Island and Maori background. Beau is from a very dysfunctional ‘mixed
plate’ island family and was married for a long time. One day his wife Mikey
says, “I love you, babe, but this isn’t working. I need a really good man…” she
pauses, “And so do you.”
He’s a lovely gentle shy soul and he meets Matt
Quintal, a painter, who’s been living the ‘gay scene’ in LA for a year and
knows it’s a crock a shit. He comes to the island to visit his sister Rach and
meets Beau. There’s an instant soul connection between them. They have to face
their own vulnerabilities and let themselves be in love.
They both have their things they bring to the
relationship which get triggered and they work through them so they can love
deeply and not be scared. It’s about family dysfunction, abuse, redemption,
love and vulnerabilities between two men who really want a deep loving
relationship and have to allow their hearts and souls to open up. It’s a really
beautiful story about love and care. All my stories are ultimately about
relationships. And they’re always happily ever after.
you so much, Meg, for your fascinating answers. Man, I could listen to you all day--and night. Are there any questions I didn’t ask which
you would like to answer? If so, here’s
your opportunity. Please go ahead!
MEG: Thank you, John!!! Wonderful interview. I love
everything you have put together from various conversations we’ve had.
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have the url for it, because it’s always weird, not sure why).
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